Guest: Franz Gayl. Topics: SUSTAIN Workshop Final Draft Space Transportation Technology Roadmap, separating Space Command from Air Force, space debris. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We welcomed Franz Gayl back to the program for the to for the first time publicly discuss details of the SUSTAIN Workshop Final Draft Space Transportation Technology Roadmap. You can download this 200 page Roadmap document at www.spacedebrisresearch.com/Space_Debris_Research/Roadmap_files/10.10.21.... During our first segment, Franz talked about his being a student at the Singularity University (SU) this week, his space track at SU, space debris, and space solar power (SSP). He then described the problems and delays in getting the Roadmap released, including issues that arose within the NSSO as it was disbanded during this time period. The Air Force never released the Roadmap so Franz has done so on this show. It might be possible with some editorial changes that another organization releases it but as you will hear, it is too early to know that for sure. In discussing the project and the Air Force, Franz began made the case that the space segment in the Air Force needed to be separated from the Air Force into its own space service. Dr. Jurist was our first caller and the conversation focused on a separate space force and why it was needed. This is a comprehensive discussion so don't miss it. Let us know what you think of the idea by posting on The Space Show blog URL above. Later in the segment, Franz continued talking about the Roadmap contents. Dave Hook called in to talk about changes being made based on threats and needs with the SUSTAIN concept. Bill of Virginia sent in a note wondering about the feedback Franz had received from the SUSTAIN participants regarding the delays in releasing the Roadmap. We closed out this segment by returning to idea of separating space from the Air Force. Franz said we needed a two part leadership to do it, including a Billy Mitchell type of leader advocating for the space service. In our second segment, Franz spoke about his SU proposed project on orbital debris and the need for ITAR reform. He also went into more detail about his ten week program at SU. If you have a comment or question for Franz, post it on the blog URL above. Franz can be reached by email at franz.gayl@gmail.com.