Broadcast 2952 Special with Rand Simberg, Bill Simon for Evoloterra

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Guests:  Rand Simberg, Bill Simon:  Topics:  Commemorating landing on the Moon, July 20, 1969 with the Evoloterra Ceremony, what it meant then and now plus lots more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding specific Space Show programs & guest(s) to the Space Show blog which is part of archived program on our website,  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See

We welcomed back Rand Simberg and Bill Simon to discuss their Evoloterra Ceremony that marks when mankind first left Earth for another celestial body referring to landing on the Moon on July 20, 1969.  You can see  and download the ceremony at  As Rand was introducing us to Evoloterra and its significance, he also talked about some changes and updates to the ceremony that they made this year.  The changes focused on Earth's gravitational field as Rand said they corrected an inaccurate statement in that we never left Earth's gravitational field when going to the Moon.  He explained this several times during our program and it something you don't want to miss.  In addition, he said they added in wording about photosynthesis so don't miss what was said about that as it changed our atmosphere giving it oxygen which enabled human development.  The third change was to mention the development of liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen, both of which were essential to being able to go to the Moon.

There was lots of give and take with Rand and Bill about the significance of Evoloterra today, our current program (whatever that may be), how to inspire and excite people, Musk, Bezos and the private sector space efforts and why we must avoid going to space to recreate Apollo.  Those of you that have heard other Rand Simberg Space Show programs or read his articles know Rand's position on this in that we do not want to recreate Apollo and that Musk, Bezos and the private sector will take us to space, not the government.  Bill and Rand had lots to say on this topic throughout our one segment, 1 hour 53 minute program.

Much was said about the historical timeline which started when life first crawled form the oceans to land.  Our guests talked about why Evoloterra was modeled on the Passover Seder and we had listeners comment on that via email.  Don't miss what they had to say with regards to getting Evoloterra to be a cultural necessity like the Seder has been for the Jewish people for centuries.  Rand even mentioned once again that July 20th should be a national holiday.


One question from listener Judd in Boston inquired as to why only the good of humans and western civilization was referenced in the timeline.  He suggested that bad things done by people, including those not part of western civilization, contributed significantly to the good things that often came later and out of the west.  Rand and Bill acknowledged this but said they wanted to keep the Evoloterra Ceremony short and not see it expand to four hours or something like that.  They thought about adding additional items such as what Judd was talking about into an addendum or set of follow up notes.  I believe they agreed with the historical accuracy of what Judd was talking about but again stated Evoloterra was about the positive things done by humans to be able to leave Earth for the first time ever.

Another point our guests made was the fact that there can never be another "first" for leaving Earth.  Even going to Mars, an asteroid or someday to another star system, the first ever of our leaving earth to walk on another celestial body was the Apollo 11 lunar mission.  As our guests kept repeating throughout the show, there can only be one first!

Our guests talked about the unique circumstances for our having gone to the Moon.  We went not to go to space but to demonstrate our technology, science, economy, and way of life was better than that of the former Soviet Union.  We were at war, a cold war, a war that did not involve loss of life or territory, but war it was and it was scary for those of us living through it.  We fought and we won by going to the Moon.  We won the war, then the space program ended.  Make sure you hear what Bill and Rand had to say about this as it was a frequent discussion theme during our program.

This year's Evoloterra program stressed the added items, the excitement and inspiration coming from the private sector with Bezos, Musk, reusability and more.  This too was a major theme of the discussion.  All signs pointed to the private sector business men and women taking us to space, not the government.

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog for this show.  You can reach Rand through his blot,  You can also reach Rand and Bill through me at my Space Show email address.




July 20th Evoloterra Discussion (Evoloterra has been updated)

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