Broadcast 2588

The Space Foundation Conference

18 Nov 2015 ohn Batchelor, Michael Listner, Dr. David Livingston
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Guests: John Batchelor, Michael Listner, Dr. David Livingston. Topics: Commercial Space Law Act 2015 & asteroid property rights. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce. This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF ( For those of you listening to archives on & rating the programs, please email me the reasons for your rating. This will definitely help improve Space Show programming. Thank you. Please note that audio and transition issues are a result of copying the John Batchelor broadcast & are not within my control as they originate in the Batchelor studio. John Batchelor and I welcomed back Michael Listner, space attorney, to discuss the recently passed Commercial Space Law by Congress. This law included a section on asteroid mining that may be an effort to convey to US citizens space property rights. Property rights are not permitted by the UN treaties and Michael said that the new law was sufficiently vague between conveying a property right as opposed to a use right which is allowed in the treaty. Michael and others believe it conflicts with the treaty but many within the industry and space enthusiasts believe this is important as it sets a baseline to improve upon in terms of property rights for the future. Michael also suggested it might be good for the asteroid mining companies as they can show their investors that there is now a basis in law which might help with getting new investment. I asked Michael if international space players would care about this or if it the provisions were enforceable outside the US. Michael suggested they would care because it granted these "rights" only to US citizens and they would likely object to it. John made several references to pirates and corporate plunder but I did not agree with those descriptions. What do you think? Let us know on the blog. You can email Mr. Batchelor or Bill Harwood through me at



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