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Guest: Dr. Bruce Cordell. Topics: Dr. Cordell, using Maslow Windows and historical economic trends, looks at the potential future for a large space expansion program. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See We welcomed back Dr. Bruce Cordell for this 1 hour 38 minute discussion of Maslow Windows suggesting the strong possibility of a large & successful expansion of our space program by 2016, including a possible large space project on the order of Apollo or even the turn of the century Panama Canal. To find out more about Maslow Windows, visit In preparation for this program, Dr. Cordell posted this on his site: Make sure to click on the link for his article "10 Space Trends for 2013-Featuring the Approach of the New International Space Age." During our first segment, Dr. Cordell provided us with a brief introduction to Maslow Windows and the historical trends supporting this analysis. He compared economic and financial times of past large government projects and expansions to our recent times and how we are now evolving towards a large expansion project as was the case many times over the past 200 years. A key ingredient needed to bring about the changes Dr. Cordell spoke about is the emergency of economic growth and a national ebullient feeling, both of which are absent today. He also said he was looking to the elections of 2014 and 2016 to produce substantial change, opening the door to the possibility pointed to by his Maslow Window analysis. In response to one of my questions, Dr. Cordell was clear that change did not necessarily mean changing political parties. Bruce received several questions from the NewSpace segment of the community, challenging the need for a large government space program and for SLS. Bruce talked about this at length in both segments as listeners kept this as a front and center topic for the full program. We also talked about the need for advances in technology to be ripe in order for the expanded space program to happen. John from Ft. Worth called in with questions related to the Chinese program and Bruce connected dots in this conversation to his analysis. Among the many things he said, it was clear the project being alluded to did not have to be American and could be Chinese. He also strongly advocated international participation. We talked about Mars and going first to Phobos or Deimos, then he talked about the failed Phobos-Grunt mission. We started the second segment with our guest pointing out similarities in JFK's time to today, including Iran today and the Cuban Missile Crisis for JFK. Bruce commented about huge changes going on around the world, including here in the U.S. with energy production. Space education came up, there were lots of comments about our Congress, the administration and public disconnect over space. This has to change for the Maslow Window to open up and produce the space expansion project. He also talked about how we live in turbulent times and at least for now, the public and most in government do not have the stomach for the large Apollo like space project. He said change would bring wealth creation, a better economy, and the people would soon be in a better position to want to do something like another Apollo. Near the end, we talked about the ISS and its success. In his concluding remarks, he pointed out that we live in scary times and that global changes were happening very fast. This fast rate of change is a key predictors of the coming space boom. Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog above. You can email Dr. Cordell through his website.



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06 Dec 2013 Dr. Bruce Cordell
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