Note that our telephone line audio was not good for this program. I called Peter a few times hoping for a better phone line but I did not get one so I went ahead knowing that the audio would not be clear.  I apologize for the poor audio quality but as I said on the show I cannot control phone line audio and its the biggest problem and challenge facing each and every Space Show program.  Should we be able to implement Zoom audio and the guest agrees to use Zoom audio, many of the audio problems will either be eliminated or greatly diminished. Thank you for your understanding.  Dr.

Guest:  Dr. Ajay Kothari; Topic:  Returning to the Moon post Covid 19.  Be sure to read Dr. Kothari's Space Review article from May 11, 2020.  He has posted a link to this article on the blog plus to other relevant documents.  The bottom line for Dr. Kothari was and is that it is essential to return to the surface of the Moon, we are in a fierce competition with China that also involves national security, we must bypass the Gateway and go direct using the FH or a yet to be built other large commercial rocket.  He explained the need for returning to the Moon has having two points.