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Guest: Dr. Patricia (Pat) Hynes. Topics: International Symposium for Personal and Commercial Spaceflight (ISPCS) in Las Cruces, NM, Oct. 16-17, 2013. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. We welcomed Dr. Pat Hynes back to the program to discuss this year's ISPCS. During the first segment of our 1 hour 58 minute program, Dr. Hynes introduced us to this year's symposium which is in Las Cruces from Oct. 16-17. For detailed symposium information, registration, and more, please visit http://www.ispcs.com. Pat started by telling us about attending a Virgin Galactic event in Mojave last week, including aspects of space medicine applicable to Virgin and human spaceflight. Next, Doug called on his way back from Vandenberg and he told us about seeing the Falcon 9 launch and his impressions, then he asked Pat about the suborbitals ramping up for orbital spaceflight and if that was in their plans. Pat said yes, talked about Point to Point Travel, some of the challenges, and orbital HSF in general. I also added some information to the discussion. During the balance of the first segment, Pat went through the first day of panels at the symposium offering highlights and insights not listed on the website. Later, she talked about speaker John Gertner and his book, "The Idea Factory," which addresses Bell Labs and innovation. Pat referred to this book, Bell Labs and Innovation several more times during our discussion. In the second segment, we picked up with the Wednesday afternoon program featuring Sandy Magnus, Executive Director, AIAA. The importance of Innovation remained a key thread in our discussion and it is a major theme of the symposium. During the balance of the second segment, Pat guided us through the agenda, again providing us with insights not listed on the website. We also talked about the social and networking aspects of the conference which are outstanding! IP was also discussed and the subject, including patents, is part of the symposium agenda. We also talked a lot about NASA Flight Opportunities. Near the end of our discussion, Pat talked about the tour of Spaceport America for Friday, Oct. 18. Please post your comments and questions on The Space Show blog URL above. You can contact Pat's office for more information by calling (575) 646-6414.