Guest: Chris Carberry. Topics: Human spaceflight to Mars, Exploremars.org, Mars political advocacy. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience. Please note that in the second segment there were two very noisy cell phone calls and we apologize for that. I believe the noise was outdoor wind noise at the callers location. We welcomed back Chris Carberry, Executive Director of Explore Mars, to outline for us their Mars 2015 plans along with proposed political advocacy with the new Congress and upcoming 2016 presidential election. In the first segment of our 96 minute discussion, Chris mentioned some of the highlight planned for Explore Mars for 2015 including their H2M Conference at GWU from May 5-7 plus he updated us on the ExoLance and their time capsule projects. We talked about the political work needed and what Explore Mars was doing regarding this with the incoming congressional members and in preparing for the 2016 presidential race. I asked Chris to tell how human spaceflight to Mars is presented to congressional members for the most impact and what the biggest objections were which he said focused on the budget. He also suggested there was lots of political interest in human spaceflight to Mars. Later we talked about Mars or the Moon, competing for funding and for priority status. Marshall called with questions about needed energy for a human venture to Mars, focusing on either solar power or nuclear power. The nuclear power part set up a more extensive discussion. Chris responded to several emails about lunar water and should it be the Moon or Mars. He was also asked about depots and their possible support of a humans to Mars mission. In the second segment, Kirk called in for updates on ExoLance and he asked about a sustainable one way mission to Mars, particularly if public money was used for the mission. Chris thought we were far off from a publicly funded one way Martian mission. Later, Chris talked about increased interest and talk about going to Mars and he mentioned several companies have plans for a humans to Mars mission. Orion and SLS came up as well. A 20 year time line was suggested for the Mars mission. Toward the end of the discussion, Chris said their 2015 agenda was to continue focusing on building the Mars coalition, to start briefing presidential candidates in advance of the 2016 election, plus working with the new congress. Toward the end of the show, Chris was asked about going to the moons of Mars instead of Mars. Tim, our last caller, wanted to know about Red Dragon. Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above. You can contact Chris through his website or me.