Guest:  Gary Oleson;  Topics: We discussed Gary's Space News Op-ed "The Apollo Program and the Chinese Treasure fleets" dated July 19, 2019.  This was a one segment 80 minute discussion with Gary linking the Apollo program and the basics of exploration with the Chinese treasure fleets, all with similar outcomes, developments and even reasoning for changes that fell upon both programs.  About half way through the discussion, Gary focused on lessons learned and then as we neared the end of the program, we started asking questions as to why it appears the Chinese may have learned the lessons b

Guest: Mark Whittington; Topics: We discussed Mark's new book, "Why Is It So Hard to Go Back to the Moon.? Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use.