Guest:  Rand Simberg:  Topics: Apollo July 20th anniversary, Artemis 1 lunar mission, lunar south pole not Tranquility Base, multiple other important space news topics including the October concern about renewing the learning period for commercial space.

Guest:  Greg Klerkx; Topics:  Greg follows up on commercial space from his best selling 2004 book, "Lost In Space: The Fall of NASA and the Dream of a New Space Age."  Together we examine commercial space (alt.space) in 2004 to day.

Guest:  Kim Holder;  Topics:  Moonwards updates and plans, The Starship Congress 2017, new global economic models and more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding specific Space Show programs & guest(s) to the Space Show blog which is part of archived program on our website, www.thespaceshow.com.  Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use.