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Broadcast 959 (Special Edition)Listen to the show!
Aired on June 10th, 2008
Guests: Dr. David Livingston, Col. Michael V. Smith, USAF (Coyote)
Guests: Col. M. V. (Coyote Smith; Dr. David Livingston: ISDC 2008 Interview # 4 starts off with a quality discussion with Col. M. V. (Coyote) Smith, USAF, regarding the business case potential and the need for developing space solar power. This is a hard-hitting discussion in the hotel coffee shop about what is needed for space solar power to be developed. During this interview, not only do we discuss business case facts, but energy policy, the capability of the private sector to develop a demo project, other nations and their work toward SSP as well as their capability to do the project. We also looked back in time to see if we were ready to start SSP back in the days of gas lines during the Carter presidency. Coyote also talked about the small SSP demo project to be carried out within a few years with the help of the Eisenhower Center for Space and Defense Studies in Colorado Springs, CO. This small demo project, designed primarily as a student project with students from the AF Academy as well as other schools, will light an LED from a space solar satellite that the students will build and deploy. You do not want to miss this discussion. The second part of this interview from ISDC is my session talk that runs about 75 minutes. My talk was entitled "Reality Check: How To Be Taken Seriously When Rhetoric Rules." The talk was recorded by someone other than me, so the audio quality is not great. However, it was sufficient to archive as part of this set of interviews. I start out my talk showing how I used rhetoric and bought into the Kool Aid of the time with parts of my doctoral dissertation. I move beyond myself as an example and talk about some issues I often talk about on the show, such as inflated and embellished rhetoric and why that poisons the well for the serious space players and those small, but solid companies search for financing and support. I also hit on some sacred cows and talk about the many churches that have developed over time in space development and NewSpace, securing a large membership of "true believers." SSP was one subject that fell into this category but I made an effort to distinguish between serious SSP developers and the Church of Space Solar Power. My talk is sure to ruffle feathers, make friends, anger some, and to be attacked. I urge those of you who want to take issue with some or all of my comments to do so, but remember, "shooting the messenger" does not help make your case. I suggest countering anything I say that you believe needs countering with facts and real life examples, not wish list items. If you can do that, I am all ears and am as interested in learning and advancing my thoughts as anybody else. Questions, comments, and inquiries about SSP with Col. Smith or my talk should be sent to me at drspace@thespaceshow.com. If your comments are for Coyote, I will promptly forward them.

About our guests...

Dr. David Livingston
Dr. David Livingston is the founder and host of The Space Show®, the nation’s only talk radio show focusing on increasing space commerce, developing space tourism, and facilitating our move to a space-faring economy and culture. The Space Show® is broadcast multiple times per week on radio and the internet. Past show archives, listening information, and coming events can be found at www.thespaceshow.com. The Space Show is fully licensed to the newly formed One Giant Leap Foundation (OGLF) which Dr. Livingston started to promote his special type of space education. OGLF is a 501(C)3 public benefit tax exempt foundation. In addition, Dr. Livingston is an adjunct professor at the University of North Dakota Graduate School of Space Studies, both on campus and in their distant learning program, specializing in space commerce economics, ethics, and management classes. He has also served as an adjunct professor in the Graduate School of Business at Golden Gate University teaching Entrepreneurship and Small Business Management and he has guest lectured at other university programs including Stanford University and Sonoma State University. He earned his BA from the University of Arizona, his MBA in International Business Management from Golden Gate University in San Francisco, and his Doctorate in Business Administration (DBA) also at Golden Gate University. His doctoral dissertation was titled Outer Space Commerce: Its History and Prospects. Livingston has spoken at or had his papers presented at various international space conferences, including Space and Robotics 98, 2000, and 2002, the Mars Society conferences of 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, and 2002, 2003, and 2005, the Lunar Development Conference 2000 and 2001, the IAA 2000, the Cato Institute in March 2001, and the National Space Society Conference in May 2002, the World Space Conference in Houston in 2000, Space Access 2005, Space Exploration 2005, AIAA in Long Beach in 2005, ATWG NASA Ames in October 2005, the International Conference of Nanotechnology in San Francisco in November 2005, and more. His lecture topics include venture capital for space investments, RLVs and space tourism, effective business, strategic and assumption planning, along with developing the solutions to the barriers to space enterprise, talking to the public about space, tracing the dollars spent on space through the economy, business ethics and corporate responsibility for off-Earth business ventures and New Space Industries, and observations about space development based on his radio show experience. Dr. Livingston has written a Code of Ethics for Off-Earth Commerce. His Code of Ethics for Off-Earth Businesses has been widely published and revised. Dr. Livingston has appeared as a guest with both Art Bell and George Noory on the Coast to Coast radio program discussing space commerce and tourism, Red FM in Cork, Ireland discussing space tourism and providing regular space news updates when called upon, and as a guest on other national talk shows, both on the radio and the internet. Dr. Livingston is also a contributing author to the newly published book, Beyond Earth: The Future of Humans In Space. His chapter, “Making Space A Popular Goal,” documents how to move forward to a space-faring culture based on nearly five years of hosting The Space Show. He is also providing a chapter on commercial space development and business ethics to a new book on the subject funded by NSF. Dr. Livingston is also part of a new group with Barbara Marx Hubbard, Howard Bloom and others to raise the consciousness of people regarding the value and importance of space settlement and development for humanity. When not teaching, occupied, or working with space matters, Livingston is a business consultant, financial advisor, and strategic planner. For more than twenty-five years, he has worked in oil and gas exploration, real estate development sales, the finance and security industry as well as in marketing and direct advertising sales.

Col. Michael V. Smith, USAF (Coyote)
Colonel (Select) Michael V. Smith is the Chief of Future Concepts, a shop known as “Dream Works,” of the National Security Space Office. Dream Works explores, develops, advocates, and links future concepts, capabilities, and promising technologies to advance the art of spacefaring across the security sector. He is the director of the Space-Based Solar Power Feasibility Study, and also serves as a Visiting Military Fellow at National Defense University where he is co-authoring a two-volume set on space power theory. The lieutenant colonel was born in North Conway, New Hampshire. He entered the Air Force in 1986 through the Saint Michael’s College Air Force Reserve Officer Training Corps program. He has served in various space and missile positions and as an instructor at the USAF Weapons School-Space Division. Most recently he was Commander of the 321st Missile Squadron at F.E. Warren Air Force Base in Cheyenne Wyoming, where his unit was recognized as the “Best ICBM Squadron in Air Force Space Command.” During Operation ALLIED FORCE he served in the Combined Forces Air Component Commander’s Strategy Cell and on the Guidance, Apportionment, and Targeting Team. During Operation ENDURING FREEDOM, he served at USCENTCOM Headquarters as a strategist on General Tommy Frank’s staff and in the Space and Information Operations Element. He later served as the chief air and space power strategist in the Pentagon’s Strategic Planning Council during Operation IRAQI FREEDOM. EDUCATION 1986 Bachelor of Arts Degree in Psychology, Cum Laude, Saint Michael’s College, Winooski, VT. 1986 Distinguished Graduate, AFROTC, Saint Michael’s College, Winooski, VT. 1987 Distinguished Graduate, Missile Combat Crew Training, Vandenberg AFB, CA. 1991 Master of Arts Degree in Political Science, University of South Dakota, Vermillion, SD. 1992 Squadron Officer’s School, Maxwell AFB, AL. 1994 Distinguished Graduate, Undergraduate Space Training, Vandenberg AFB, CA. 1996 Distinguished Graduate, USAF Weapons Instructor Course, Nellis AFB, NV. 2000 Master of Military Operational Art and Science, Air Command and Staff College, Maxwell AFB, AL. 2001 Master of Airpower Art and Science, School of Advanced Air and Space Power Studies, Maxwell AFB, AL. 2004 Air War College, Nonresident Learning Program, Maxwell AFB, AL. 2010 (Commencing in fall 2007) PhD, Politics and International Relations, University of Reading, UK ASSIGNMENTS 1. November 1986 - May 1987, Student, EuroNATO Joint Jet Pilot Training, 88th Flying Training Squadron, Sheppard AFB, TX. 2. May 1987 - October 1987, Student, Combat Crew Missile Training, Vandenberg AFB, CA. 3. October 1987 - June 1991, Instructor, Evaluator, Flight Commander, Missile Combat Crew Commander, 67th Strategic Missile Squadron, Ellsworth AFB, SD. 4. June 1991 - August 1993, Wing Executive Officer, 44th Missile Wing, Ellsworth AFB, SD. 5. August 1993 - February 1994, Chief, Facilities Maintenance Flight, 44th Field Missile Maintenance Squadron, Ellsworth AFB, SD. 6. February 1994 - April 1994, Student, Undergraduate Space Training, Vandenberg AFB, CA. 7. April 1994 - April 1995, Chief of Current Operations, 2 d Command Control Squadron, Schriever AFB, CO. 8. May 1995 - August 1995, Executive Officer, 4409th Operations Group (P), Riyadh Air Base, Saudi Arabia. 9. August 1995 - June 1996, Deputy Chief, Passive Operations, 21st Operations Support Sq, Peterson AFB, CO. 10. June 1996 - April 1999, Space Weapons Instructor, USAF Weapons School, Nellis AFB, NV. 11. April 1999 - July 1999, Space And IO Campaign Planner, Strategy/Guidance, Apportionment And Targeting Cell, 5th Allied Tactical Air Force Combined Air Operations Center, Dal Molin Air Base, Vicenza, Italy (Attached). 12. August 1999 - June 2000, Student, Air Command And Staff College, Maxwell AFB, AL. 13. July 2000 - June 2001, Student, School Of Advanced Airpower Studies, Maxwell AFB, AL. 14. July 2001 - September 2001, Strategist, Strategy, Concepts, And Doctrine Division, Headquarters U.S. Air Force, Washington, DC 15. September 2001 - December 2001, Strategist and Campaign Planner, Space And Information Operations Element, Headquarters U.S. Central Command, MacDill AFB, FL (Air Staff Liaison). 16. January 2002 - June 2003, Chief, Doctrine Branch, Strategy, Concepts, and Doctrine Division, Headquarters U.S. Air Force, Washington, DC 17. June 2003 - 2003, Chief, Wing Safety, 90th Space Wing, F. E. Warren AFB, WY. 18. September 2003 - July 2005, Commander, 321st Missile Squadron, F. E. Warren AFB, WY. 19. August 2005 - Present, Chief, Future Concepts, National Security Space Office, Pentagon, Washington, DC BADGES Command Space Operator Badge MAJOR AWARDS AND DECORATIONS Meritorious Service Medal with three oak leaf clusters Air Force Commendation Medal with oak leaf cluster Joint Service Achievement Medal Air Force Achievement Medal with four oak leaf clusters Combat Readiness Medal with oak leaf cluster National Defense Service Medal with bronze star Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal Southwest Asia Service Medal with bronze star Kosovo Campaign Medal Global War on Terrorism Service Medal NATO Medal PUBLICATIONS Smith, M.V. “Cognac With Douhet.” Air and Space Power Chronicles, 01 May 2001. Smith, M.V. Ten Propositions Regarding Spacepower. Maxwell Air Force Base, Ala.: Air University Press, October 2002. Smith, M.V. “Some Propositions on Spacepower,” Joint Force Quarterly, Winter 2002-2003, 56-64. EFFECTIVE DATES OF PROMOTION Second Lieutenant May 10, 1986 First Lieutenant Aug 10, 1988 Captain Aug 10, 1990 Major May 1, 1998 Lieutenant Colonel Nov 1, 2002 Colonel Dec 1, 2007 (Projected)

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